However, I can share my short-lived Primerica experience with you. If you are not a salesman dont join. Life is never easy. Hes doing what he wants to doi dont care whyregardless, its HIS CHOICE. They would charge more for people with bad credit scores, because they might use insurance more than peopel with good credit. Present the solution. Either way they are not good companies. How do you know my companies? . Unless you are afraid of the competition. This is only your license start up. Again, is this unique to Primerica? Back ground testing: Depending on where and how deep. Now ROP is a choice not the end all and be all of a real consultants arsenal. Talk is cheap. TermNow, with up to $300,000 in coverage; Sorry for getting to this post so late as you know, Ive been busy. It look like James you need to check out the real life business out there, because you would be surprised to find out the real world is different than what you think. If he is wrong in any area his posts are not trustworthy. But there is more than this one. I mean John or whomever he is led right to you. Merill and Citi both agree to take care of the small buyers that have been hurt by someone the mis-statements. They stopped doing auto insurance since then. =-. Or they will have a person who may be a CLU be their direct contact person for help with cases. ), I could go on and on, but then again I do not want to ramble. I consider myself to be an open-minded person, so I dont mind meeting with the recruiters and really learning what the company is all about. They've been around for over Now ask one of the RVPs why doesnt PFS just offer a policy that pays to age 100 (or beyond) with a level premium and a level death benefit to combat a cash value policy? I just compare contract per contract and products against products. Or send you a letter saying call this number about your insurance policy. The people I deal with most of the time, wouldnt earn anyone a $7,000 commission no matter what product you were selling. It is evident in the way they talked about everything as a have to. Two points that most people think is important, especially if I was going to place my families life if I die premature. Well let us see, How many people have been using their house as a piggy bank, are now in trouble? May be this is why you left. Studying in the field that I am in, I deal with the industry and Ill tell you something having a degree has nothing to do with being good in this business. Primerica wants their money back .. which means they take it out of the next check or the next one or the next one which means you are running up an escalator and YOU KNOW IT . I would also like to set some ground rules. Maybe not always in the beginning but for sure towards the end of the product life. This may be typical for the industry at a whole, but not for Primerica. I am not a better man than you. You should have known this, but are you being stupid or deceptive? How many 80 years olds do you know that are working. > I ask because, though I am educated (two B.A.s and an M.A. You are right, unless you are planning on getting a divorce when you do the policy, this is one thing that people do not plan on it. Most Jobs have optional DI. Tom you have a good day.. James @ 10:59 am If this was so, then we all would shop at 99 cents stores. PFS is 6-months. But getting back to this part of the post. Who likes to see the person who works the hardest get a head? 7 Loan origination License. He paid more so he would not get the harassing calls. Now he is struggling because he is living off of 60% of what he was making and his wife had to quit working to take care of him. They could not beat it. I shoudl know I am a business owner. That part also left a bad taste in my mouth. . But then again nothing is surprising me about you. These are two things that Michael/Thomas does not understand. I started with Northwestern Mutual and I didnt have a clue about finances. They give solutions not just products, but since you seem to understand the simple things, the complex ones are going over your head. Again this is coming from a person who did not know what you get for the $99, not the $199. Remember how they let their other businesses call them, so they may not make as much but they make more on the name in a list. Even Citi is laying off their employees. You say that bweing 7 and 66 makes you able to keep your clients away from systematic risk. It is your job to ask questions and listen, take notes and put the right product for your clients needs. And since they have no value term one can only guess why they need a new product. Thats 613.08 per year savings. IO looked into Primeamerica a few years ago, and what Becky reported about them having mutual funds with comparitively low returns was true then too. Only 1 to 5% rate of return. Our we selling juice here? To be completely honest your current situation sounds much better (full production credit (100%) and 100% up-front commission). Some think there is a good reason to get max amounts of term.. Now I didnt say everyone, I said some people. From Primerica Financial Services Home Mortgages, Inc. Originator Agreement. No it did not. Well Since I am not an agent, but the last time I talked about it to my agent a year or so ago, he pulled an article from an outside source saying that it is a waste of money. Ask your RVP about it. It seems he thinks that it is ok to lie here. Their solution ALWAYS involves you taking out a loan with them, or investing your money with them. Its throw up, by the way. Look at any self help investment book. Who are you to assume everyone is dissatified. Nobody ever talked about term before Primerica. I want to add that most average americans dont understand life insurance policies. Let them buy it. Soliciting recruits (which I do not like), they approach people in a restroom, mall, parking lot, grocery store, gas stations, and even when they are out on dates. Since it only covers Life insurance, that is understandable. Accidental and Cancer are both worthless since they do not pay out often. 10. Thats going to be expensive. In my opinion I believe that we insurance agents have a moral obligation to actually give the client the best service and products available and if you can only sell one product its had to be competative. WebPrimerica markets financial products and services from some of the world's more recognizable companies. They can always get a HELOC in case times are tough and they cant make the payment. We recruite like any business if there was no one at McDonalds you wouldnt get your food. stake in their own commissions, it is important for Primerica to preserve its customer base and avoid unfair competition. Most people do not want to pay 15 times more for the same insurance. Its good to see the VPs of the company excited about their job and company. I know the truth. Tom says: Again you are assuming that the client pays til the end. Second, its not that PFS didnt work for you, or the people in your baseI think we both know thats not it. -. purpose? If you get to then end of your Car insurance do you expect a refund? Not many. They might be posting, and then getting contacted. on my previous post I maid an error. You said, So basic economics say that the companies you work for, either pay to much and will ahve to short cut on services, or are possibly going out of business. Could this be because of legal trouble? I bet his clients do not know this is his philosophy. Michael posting about the cost to get involved is grossly wrong. I know that you do not get the support you need. -. , Since it more than likely came from you, a typical competitors choice, I am glad you pat yourself on your own back. See links above. Also, PLEASE post any questions you would like me to ask my trainer! -, This proves you never really worked with Primerica, and talked to anyone about funds. _________________________________________________-_, Tom says: No Office: Same thing as above. This statement should imply I am still learning about the company and its products. The reason why any legtitamate company gives you only 40% is so that the heirs cant come back and sue the comapny for taking away their ability to life after the bread winner is dead. If they can make $1000 extra month, how long will it take to do that at minimum wage, or a little better. This investment includes commissions you may receive. If I place the client with the right carrier and concentrate on providing a solution to a need its not an issue. Look up you PFS guy and let him take your abuse. Williams was sold once before and stock went through the roof. I am no more your brother than those idiots sending out emails saying they are Christian Mortgage Brokers. It is less expensive and usually is the better deal. Those licenses DO NOT LIE. Did you know when I was younger the difference was atleast 10 years. 4. Watch this hand while I take your wallet in the other. Attend a business orientation to see if you like the environment. You do need to recruit if you want to eventually have a decent residual income and have a business, that one day you can pass on to your children. By the way even though we are less expensive than most great service and value oriented companies. They do not need this crap.. Youll get your answers that way, and then you can make your decision based on those facts, and not just on how I happen to view the company., And you said: Again, bottom line: better products, cheaper products, more commission for the rep, more freedom and immediate ownership. Through coming to understand the algorithms of the software and through the mentoring, my deficiency will be replaced by experience. IT was hilarious how when the commissionaires and legislative branches saw what was happening, they threw the big insurance companies out. Since those with lower credit scores are known to use their insurance when they have accidents, we will charge them more. Would you only purchase one brand car knowing that there is a better products that there? But what would you call something that gets you from point A to Point B. In addition, SEC registration does not carry any official imprimatur or indication PFSI has attained a particular level of skill or ability. NEVER annuitizes! , Well Since many poster have several aliases and they use them to push up the same person, you can see how this can be seen. He will find out the hard way that the grass is not greener on the other side. USA Today is a good source. Good, And I can see why it is a conflict. The people Primerica is helping is not the 1% wealthy that have a need for 4 millions dollars of estate and huge tax liabilities. Banner Life But Since they are you competition should you not know what they sell so you will know how to respond? A way in, is all they need, to spread lies and mis-information. this si what He wants them to do so he will have less competition. You said: The other thing I will warn all of you looking into PFS about, is the culture of you can do it. It is not the company but the business. I bet you can share your payment plan with us. Matter of fact, he was talking to one of the biggest groups of Christian leaders. and ppl quit because primerica does not fire agents and those people can not make the amount of money they want. Primerica is a life insurance company that offers two types of term life policies for customers between 18 and 70 years old. . Not every situation will term insurance always be the best option. This is typical of someone losing the battle. And the difference can be placed in a Roth IRA, which will be tax free. But then as an independent, it is you pull the cart. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. I know what I know and I constantly search for what I dont know. Their agents are limited in products and training. You ahve made it slander board with your name calling, and you half-truths. The reason I do this is because if they have a bigger, better, and cheaper product, lets bring them in with us. Ron Seeback and Steve Edwards both resigned from PFS in October.. On your death you get the choice of either the money in the account or the life insurance, not both. Term works for it greatly. Talk is cheap. Heres some more. It is my business. *****The biggest is AIG. Forgive me for asking, perhaps you clearly stated this elsewhere, but where should I e-mail to discuss things further and more in-depth? 7. Do you think that if she was as good as He families lifestyle demands that he makes money to pay for the house they live in, the cars they drive and the life he gives them. Let us look at the insurance companies as a whole. I did not make fun of it, I was making fun of you trying to use the fact that someone did not ahve disability insurance. I have to go to school, have to get a license, have to renew it every year, have to go to training, have to build a market, have to find people who will stick, and finally, have to get good enough to be promoted. Am I the only one who see this? What you are saying is converting it to Whole,Universal, You bet your life Insurance. Its not owned by an individual. Would you only shop at one supermarket? Please try again later. So who do you go to? How does Primerica actually make their money if they offer such good rates? Being Cheaper does not make it equal. I do remember that Primerica had some agents it had to get rid of in Orange county since they were selling away. The Values are Hypothetical in only the statement that you are not guaranteeing the rate of return. and what do u mean by that? As an independent contractor why is it a good idea to have to give up a leg(s) to advance to a higher commission level? Your business which is a Multi-Level-Marketing, hence largest finanical services MARKETING org; notice the legal lingo that requires them to use marketing because you are definately not the largest financial services organization, is based very much so on recruiting. I dont think thats in PFS best interest. I asked my trainer some of the exact questions you guys are asking. Do you know the difference between a good term policy and a bad one? . Four years later would change their name to Primerica Corporation. If by some chance you feel PFS is a stepping stone, do what you feel is best for you. It wasnt until December of 2007, when I became disenfranchised with work, that I began to embrace the Primerica opportunity and as such began to attend regular meetings and trainings. That is not the same as a CEO or owner of a S or C corp. If you were an agent knowing what you know now, could you with a good conscience hand a beneficiary a check for $250,000 know they could have been getting $325,000 if you just shared some information with them? Yours? What about you? meets my needs. And that there are better ways that cost less and give less commission for estate preservation than to use cash value? I mean why not put up or shut up. )They sell Cash value, and they have a history or contacting clients and trying to convert them to cash value. If you got to this pointi cant see how youd disagree unless youre two vultures huddling up togetherjust preaching same values and you find that in common lol. ANd ever since they have had to bad mouth Primerica. But if the Show fits, wear it. Residential Mortgage An acquaintance approached me about Primerica. But let us see. ROP is great for a young couple that is not established in life. Point is sources that have biases is not good. It really is as simple as that. Sounds easy, but its a lot of red-tape. , I am not sure, but that is the reason why you are independent. I ahve already proved this in several areas, I love to see your termination notice. It cost more to get it by your self. not thousands. Again you are assuming that the client pays til the end. Maybe the Regular Joes dont like or trust you all and want to speak to folks they know and trust. Yes those are really funny examples, but why not. Need guaranteed returns. Since you never worked with them how can you give any information about the company? . But I do not make ones that are easy to make sure they do not happen. Still doubt? . Something to consider would be to use an Annuity and a ROP.. who looses their job and who actually makes money for the company? Its like a doctor trying to have a conversation with a baby that was just born. Thats just the way it is. District Leader. But if I am going to give my families lifelihood to someone, I want an office. We all know that where houses are the cheapest place to have space. (Consult your agent agreement) So if you leave, you leave with nothing from all the work you put in. Did you know when I was younger the difference was atleast 10 years. And the shareholders made lots of money when Primerica was formed. Now Frank, I hope you do not think I am picking on you, but your opinions are based on facts based on errors. We get commissions on each piece of business that we close. Unless you are selling fear. I pretty much dismiss all the critics online not because I dont think they have valid arguments but because they obviously have deeper motivations to repeat over and over again the same things that theyve said many other times and others have said. I dont care..YOU DONT MAKE UP THE WORLDthe world has billions of inhabitants. He is more concerned about defending Primerica, than helping the client. It was fun to listen to the tape of the agent apologizing to the client for lying cheating and stealing from them. I thought he doesnt work for PFS? I can still go to law school adn be a lawyer and start my own firm for the hell of itwith or without a pile of clients, Ill still be alright and still be happy. Because its terrible to try to sell your food to your friends and family. Buill do I need to explain that again? . Buy Term invest the difference ONLY!!!!! So you understand cost per 1000 and how it pertains to the amount of coverage you can purchase right? DOes not mean you are more qualified. Are you afraid that someone that does his homework can beat you any day? Since he has not clarified this He must be keeping with his first statement. It has been since the insurance laws have been inacted by the lobby of the cash value insurance companies. ya you have a few people with reputable backgrounds but there is a reason they didnt make it in thier industry either.. and to say all those people that make it are evil well is just irresponsible and makes you look so amature. The reason I sale insurance is because I believe in my product, I believe in my carriers, and I believe that I am doing the right thing for my clients. So what you are saying even though the company he founded and makes money off of, is overcharging their customers, you will still use and abuse him. Life insurance is income protection. They are worthless. How many of those people are claiming someone should have looked out for me? Williams was a Financial Services Marketing Company. Just for fun everyone can join in and participate. Good luck to you internet savvy gurus and keep bashing PFSit looks good on you. I am not making numbers up. Tom you still havent answered the question. Now that you know what a YUGO is Michael can you see how comparing it to say a BMW shows you the difference between the term you sell and Primerica term. 1. He had exhausted all his sick and vacation leave. Suze Orman, says to stay away from cash value. It runs a minimum of $1300 for her and she is a captive agent. It will be the cheapest because of your age and health, you can have guaranteed premiums, and you can have a conversion feature with no evidence of insurability from the same carrier. He taught as a coach. They are shown how people are paying too much for the amount of coverage in their Cash Value policy. ___________________________________________________. Ill bet if you own your own company, you hire new untested people and give them ownership the first day, right? Dieting and eating right is just like. And if the company goes default, then I lose my insurance. Like going to the show store, buying a pair of running shoes and getting only the left one, who would sign up for this? AS for the layoffs, the People in Primerica are not employees they will not be layed off. Primerica will never call you over and over again saying you need to convert. I can stay in Motel 6, but I think paying for service is worth it. I basically found out that it is a MLM. I mean how many errors has I caught here? I didnt know mutual funds had any guarantees.. Tom says: Yes, but to cover every possible loss is absurd. Nothing wrong with that, BTW. These agents or just plain employee mindset people dont know anything about building a business or company from scratch or even their own client base because it was given to them by the former agency maintainer. I also happen to be one of the people asked to train these folks. Being a business owner I answer to my self and if I walk away from a client you would be the perfect example. e Again what does a 65 year want: A bill for insurance that says they are worth 1 million dollars dead, or a million dollars in cash? The guy told me, I have to work for my money. Mistake number one, trying to say someone wants a guarantee, when you know that the odds are they will change or cancel the policy. . So its not as easy as they make it seem in an opportunity meeting. Health: Regular/Average Yes it cost the person money but since you are under group discounts, you save money. Primerica agents also sell disability insurance, annuities, mutual funds and other financial products and services. I am curious who set this up for him? When they went public there was no shares available to be bought. They are even stupid. There is an application for this product. Williams was a coach. Does the agent refer the client to another agent? I knwo I rather stay in a hotel that has a high standard than the cheapest one. There are policies called A and B and even C policies. See the problem with these back and forth comments in this website, is that we are talking several different subjects. Primerica's has about nine hierarchical levels an individual can achieve base on the individual and his/her team efforts. 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